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Chris

CitySouth have kindly given me the opportunity to answer any questions you may have about the Park Farm NHW Scheme run by me and my team.

I will not get involved with questions about other schemes, websites or people personally as I have better things to do with my time. Post a responsible question and I'll reply with a truthful answer.

The admin team have advised that they will delete any posts that are not in line with the standards they have set for this website and ban those responsible.

There's a huge amount of info which may provide the answers about our award winning scheme on our website so please take a look for yourself at

www.park-farm.org.uk

I look forward to receiving your questions.
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Biscuit · Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:42 pm Post subject: Attack Sprays?????

Chris

Right. Heres some for starters.

Is it right you carry attack sprays? Is it not illegal to carry mace etc ? Have any of your patrols had to use one? Twisted Evil

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Chris · Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:39 pm Post subject:

Blimey! That was quick.

No we do not carry 'attack' sprays. Our patrols do however carry 'personal protection'sprays.

It was agreed at the outset that those who performed the patrols should have some form of personal protection as well as the high visibilty vests demanded by Inspector Human in order for the patrols to be approved so we took legal advice. The sprays issued were recommended by a police officer and agreed as OK for use as personal protection by Inspector Human.

The device initially stuns the attacker by emitting a very loud ear piercing siren while drawing the attention of those nearby (we tested one near Kedleston Road and it was heard right down by Horsey Toll Bridge) and this siren continues even if the device is dropped or knocked from the operators grasp. The spray also coats the attacker with a UV liquid and a very smelly odour (a bit like garlic and rotten eggs) The UV liquid and odour cannot be washed off and lasts for weeks making it easier for the police to identify any attacker when caught. They are readily available for the public to purchase and we felt were the best deterrent/protection on the market. They are also recommended for ladies to carry in their handbags.

You're right. Mace, CS and Pepper Sprays are considered firearms in the UK and are illegal to use or carry unless authorised such as in the case of a Police Officer.

One was set off momentarily by accident which gave a patrol member a very smelly purple pocket for many washes but no they have never had to be used.
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Roger Hughes · Guest

You recieved some funds from the council that was to be used to repay the members thier joining fee.

If this money was not repayed or declined by the member, what is your intention for use of this contribution from the council.

Chris · Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:21 am Post subject:

Roger. We were indeed successful in obtaining a £368.00 grant from the local authority to cover the set up fees initially funded by the coordinators, members and sponsors of the scheme.

All members were subsequently contacted and offered their fee back with many thanks for their initial support. All but two, who decided to donate their money to their own charity, donated their fees back into the fund, many actually advising they would have been prepared to pay more and wouldn’t dream of taking it back. Some even suggested an annual subscription was a good idea!

The local authority is aware of our member’s decision regarding refund of fees and their subsequent wishes that donations be put back into the fund as their preference.

As we have already stated. Should the local authority decide that those fees directly donated back to us by our members should not be put back into our funds and therefore not be put to good use with the day to day running costs of the scheme then we will advise our members of such a decision and once more give them the opportunity of receiving their original fee back before returning any balance to the authority.

Our accounts are totally transparent, being sent to all our members every six months and are shown on our website.

Use this link to view them www.park-farm.org.uk/howtojoin.htm

To sum up. It is our intention to use the donated monies for the day to day running and future projects. (i.e. ink, paper, toner, paint, turps, brushes etc etc)
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JimBob · Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:06 am Post subject:

Silly question, but what on earth do you want turps and brushes for ?

And nice website by the way !
I shall have to have a proper look later.

Chris · Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:39 am Post subject:

Jimbob. You'll see on our site that our members and the local authority have always been very active with the removal of graffiti in the area.

It's a well known fact that once one 'tag' goes up many will follow and very soon this makes the whole area look uncared for and draws in more undesirables.

Some graffiti cannot be steam cleaned or chemically removed so we have to then paint it over. The turps and brushes are therefore required to perform this task and clean up afterwards.
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Roger Hughes · Guest

Chris nice reply in your usual manner.

I presume that the authority to use these funds fot alternative uses has been put in writing and therefore the person who authorised this, will back your statement up.

I just wonder if this is correct or not.

Chris · Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:49 pm Post subject:

Roger.

Roger Hughes · Guest

So correct me if i am wrong, you have not actually asked the provider of those funds if you can use them for a different use.

If you have who authorised the change of use.

Simple polite question

Administrator · Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:13 pm Post subject:

And one which does not need to be answered here.
In my opinion, whatever a scheme does or does not do with it's funds is to be decided by the members and the people that run it.

This thread is for questions, and will not be turned into another mud-slinging session.

Chris, I suggest that you ignore this as you have answered the question twice already.

Chris · Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:04 pm Post subject:

A. No problem at all but I'm not going to keep repeating my answer over and over again on this topic when the aim is just to trip me up. It was a fair question and it’s received a fair answer now three times.

Moderator · Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:27 pm Post subject:

Despite the civil answers given by Chris to his questions it is our opinion that username 'Roger Hughes' broke the rules of this site by posting irresponsible personal attacks. Thumbs Down

We have taken the decision therefore to delete the posts concerned and ban him from this site.

Please don't use our site to post your petty differences and attacks. You will be banned.

Next question please.
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Biscuit · Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:37 pm Post subject: Smoke Detectors Help!

Hi Chris

I've just seen the post on your NHW site about the smoke detectors. I've got this type downstairs and on the landing as I guess most have but can't see the date described.

Is the inspection carried out free of charge without obligation?
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Chris · Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:39 pm Post subject:

Biscuit.

Yes, totally free and without obligation to our current membership.

Non members interested should contact their own preferred electrician but be sure to ask about call out fees prior to making an appointment.

If you're a member please email me at chris@park-farm.org.uk and we'll sort out a convenient date and time.
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